0000216: VCMI-H3 discrepancy: VCMI uses hotkey 'T' to open Marketplace, while H3 used it for Towns on the map & Tight in hero screen

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Summary	0000216: VCMI-H3 discrepancy: VCMI uses hotkey 'T' to open Marketplace, while H3 used it for Towns on the map & Tight in hero screen

Revision	2009-11-07 11:21 by Zamolxis
Description	So I guess we need to find another hotkey for the Marketplace. 'M' is also taken by Move. Perhaps we could use CTRL+M? In H3 it had the same functionality as 'M' (and same for SHIFT+M even), but I guess we don't need 3 different hotkeys for the same function. Otherwise we could take ALT+M, though I guess that'd be the least intuitive, so my preference would still go for CTRL+M. As for the 'T' hotkey, we could implementing it for Town cycling as in H3 (same for CTRL+T & SHIFT+T if we are to follow NWC, though not necessary). And we could even expand its functionality to the Town screen in VCMI.

Revision	2009-11-07 12:11 by Zamolxis
Description	So I guess we need to find another hotkey for the Marketplace. 'M' is also taken by Move. Perhaps we could use CTRL+M? In H3 it had the same functionality as 'M' (and same for SHIFT+M even), but I guess we don't need 3 different hotkeys for the same function. Otherwise we could take ALT+M, though I feel that's the least intuitive, so my preference would still go for CTRL+M. As for the 'T' hotkey, we could implementing it for Select Next Town (select/focus first town in the list, then cycle between them) as in H3. Optionally we could also have CTRL+T & SHIFT+T for the same function, if we are to follow NWC, though it's not necessary (they were not documented in the H3 Manual anyway). What we could do, is expand T's functionality to the Town screen in VCMI.

Revision	2009-11-07 12:11 by Zamolxis
Description	So I guess we need to find another hotkey for the Marketplace. 'M' is also taken by Move. Perhaps we could use CTRL+M? In H3 it had the same functionality as 'M' (and same for SHIFT+M even), but I guess we don't need 3 different hotkeys for the same function (plus only 'M' was documented in the H3 Manual). Otherwise we could take ALT+M, though I feel that's the least intuitive, so my preference would still go for CTRL+M. As for the 'T' hotkey, we could implementing it for Select Next Town (select/focus first town in the list, then cycle between them) as in H3. Optionally we could also have CTRL+T & SHIFT+T for the same function, if we are to follow NWC, though it's not necessary (they were not documented in the H3 Manual anyway). What we could do, is expand T's functionality to the Town screen in VCMI.

Revision	2010-11-22 11:16 by Zamolxis
Description	So I believe we need to find another hotkey for the Marketplace. We cannot use 'M', because it is taken by Move. The next hotkeys which intuitively might pop to mind, are CTRL+M or CTRL+T. The (small) problem is that in H3 they had the same function as M and T, however they were never documented in the H3 manual, so we are not so bound to implement them identically. And same goes for SHIFT+ combinations. If we do implement CTRL+/SHIFT+ combinations exactly like H3 (alternatives to single hotkeys), then I guess we are left only with ALT+M or ALT+T for the Marketplace window (perhaps both?). As for the 'T' hotkey, we should change it to Select Next Town (select/focus first town in the list, then cycle between them) as in H3. Optionally we could also have CTRL+T & SHIFT+T for the same function, if we are to follow NWC, though it's not necessary (they were not documented in the H3 Manual anyway). What we could do as an enhancement, is to have T works also in the town screen (i.e.: taking us to the next town), functionality for which H3 didn't have any hotkey.

Revision	2010-11-22 11:20 by Zamolxis
Description	So I believe we need to find another hotkey for the Marketplace. We cannot use 'M', because it is taken by Move. The next hotkeys which intuitively might pop to mind, are CTRL+M or CTRL+T. The (small) problem is that in H3 they had the same function as M and T, however they were never documented in the H3 manual, so we are not so bound to implement them identically. And same goes for SHIFT+ combinations. If we do implement CTRL+/SHIFT+ combinations exactly like H3 (alternatives to single hotkeys), then I guess we are left only with ALT+M or ALT+T for the Marketplace window (perhaps both?). As for the 'T' hotkey, we should change it to Select Next Town (select/focus first town in the list, then cycle between them) as in H3. Optionally we could also have CTRL+T & SHIFT+T for the same function, if we are to follow NWC, though it's not necessary (they were not documented in the H3 Manual anyway). What we could do as an enhancement, is to have T work also in the town screen (i.e.: taking us to the next town), functionality for which H3 didn't have any hotkey.

Revision	2010-11-22 11:24 by Zamolxis
Description	So I believe we need to find another hotkey for the Marketplace. We cannot use 'M', because it is taken by Move. The next hotkeys which intuitively might pop to mind, are CTRL+M or CTRL+T. The (small) problem is that in H3 they had the same function as M and T, however they were never documented in the H3 manual, so we are not so bound to implement them identically. And same goes for SHIFT+ combinations. If we do implement CTRL+/SHIFT+ combinations exactly like H3 (alternatives to single hotkeys), then I guess we are left only with ALT+M or ALT+T for the Marketplace window (perhaps both?). These we not used in H3. However the risk here is that they may be less intuitive (though we will have a manual to take care of that I guess). As for the 'T' hotkey, we should change it to Select Next Town (select/focus first town in the list, then cycle between them) as in H3. Optionally we could also have CTRL+T & SHIFT+T for the same function, if we are to follow NWC, though it's not necessary (they were not documented in the H3 Manual anyway). What we could do as an enhancement, is to have T work also in the town screen (i.e.: taking us to the next town), functionality for which H3 didn't have any hotkey.

Revision	2012-03-01 13:58 by Zamolxis
Description	So I believe we need to find another hotkey for the Marketplace. We cannot use 'M', because it is taken by Move. The next hotkeys which intuitively might pop to mind, are CTRL+M or CTRL+T. The (small) problem is that in H3 they had the same function as M and T, however they were never documented in the H3 manual, so we are not so bound to implement them identically. And same goes for SHIFT+ combinations. If we do implement CTRL+/SHIFT+ combinations exactly like H3 (alternatives to single hotkeys), then I guess we are left only with ALT+M or ALT+T for the Marketplace window (perhaps both?). These were not used in H3. However the risk here is that they may be less intuitive (though we will have a manual to take care of that I guess). As for the 'T' hotkey, we should change it to Select Next Town (select/focus first town in the list, then cycle between them) as in H3. Optionally we could also have CTRL+T & SHIFT+T for the same function, if we are to follow NWC, though it's not necessary (they were not documented in the H3 Manual anyway). What we could do as an enhancement, is to have T work also in the town screen (i.e.: taking us to the next town), functionality for which H3 didn't have any hotkey.

Revision	2012-03-11 13:21 by Zamolxis
Description	H3 used 'T' for Towns on Adventure Map (select/focus first town in the list, then cycle through list) and for Tight formation in Hero Screen. As an enhancement, we can also have 'T' work in the Town screen, taking us to the next town. So 'T' needs to be re-allocated as per H3, and we need to find another hotkey for the Marketplace. We cannot use 'M', because it is taken by Move. The only letters not used on H3 Adventure map as hotkeys were: B, F, G, J, R, X & Y. Of these, I'd say our best options are: B = Buy or R = Resources Whichever you choose, it's maybe good to implement it also in the CTRL+/SHIFT+ combinations, same as NWC did and to be consistent with how also the other hotkeys were implemented. I don't have a preference between B or R. The only thing is that R would conflict with Replay in the Adventure Options screen (and we could code it for Recruit in some other screens), so with the Marketplace coded to be called by hotkey from any screen, maybe it's best to go for B, which is not used in any H3 interface (and can't think of other use we can give it).

Revision	2012-03-01 13:58 by Zamolxis
Additional Information

Revision	2012-03-11 13:21 by Zamolxis
Additional Information	If for any reason you prefer not using B or R, the next hotkeys which intuitively might pop to mind, are CTRL+M or CTRL+T. The problem is that in H3 they had the same function as M and T, however they were never documented in the H3 manual, so we are not so bound to implement them identically. And same goes for SHIFT+ combinations. If we do implement CTRL+/SHIFT+ combinations exactly like H3 (alternatives to single hotkeys), then I guess we are left only with ALT+M or ALT+T for the Marketplace window (perhaps both?). These were not used in H3. However the risk here is that they may be less intuitive (though we will have a manual to take care of that I guess).

Revision	2012-03-11 13:30 by Zamolxis
Description	H3 used 'T' for Towns on Adventure Map (select/focus first town in the list, then cycle through list) and for Tight formation in Hero Screen. So 'T' needs to be re-allocated as per H3, and we need to find another hotkey for the Marketplace. We cannot use 'M', because it is taken by Move. The only letters not used on H3 Adventure map as hotkeys were: B, F, G, J, R, X & Y. Of these, I'd say our best options are: B = Buy or R = Resources Whichever you choose, it's maybe good to implement it also in the CTRL+/SHIFT+ combinations, same as NWC did and to be consistent with how also the other hotkeys were implemented. I don't have a preference between B or R. The only thing is that R would conflict with Replay in the Adventure Options screen (and we could code it for Recruit in some other screens), so with the Marketplace coded to be called by hotkey from any screen, maybe it's best to go for B, which is not used in any H3 interface (and can't think of other use we can give it).

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