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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0000407VCMIMechanics - Objectspublic2010-03-02 11:412011-05-31 23:34
ReporterZamolxis 
Assigned ToWarmonger 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityrandom
StatusclosedResolutionfixed 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version0.8 
Target VersionFixed in Version0.81 
Summary0000407: Creature Banks - Sometimes all 5 defending stacks are upgraded
DescriptionI've had it happening only once with Cyclops Stockpile and once with Dwarven Treasury, but I guess it's really random for all banks (you can use the savegame in 0000404 to attempt to reproduce). It's not really an issue, I kinda like the surprise challenge :) but I don't think we had the same in OH3. It feels more like a nice WoG script, but AFAIK those ERM files should not interact with VCMI.
Additional InformationThanks to Boulie's note below, now we know more info about how this should work:

- Dragon Fly Hives should always have Dragon Flies

- Imp Cache, Dwarven Treasury, Medusa Stores, Naga Bank and Cyclops Stockpile have 4 stacks unupgraded always, with a random probability that the 5th stack is upgraded

- I added info about Griffin Conservatory in the 5th note below. Crypt is handled separately in 0000426. I'm not sure if there are other banks still left out.
TagsNo tags attached.
Attached Filesjpg file icon 2010-03-02_UpgradedCyclops.jpg [^] (134,351 bytes) 2010-03-02 11:42


jpg file icon creatures banks upg stack.jpg [^] (371,323 bytes) 2010-08-24 13:50

- Relationships
related to 0000287closedWarmonger Creature Banks - every attack changes the quantity of guards 
related to 0000426closedWarmonger Creature Banks - Crypt problems 
related to 0000747closedWarmonger Creature Banks - In H3, the upgraded stack was in the bottom-left corner of the screen, in VCMI it's placed center-right 
related to 0000748closedWarmonger Dragon Fly Hives should always have upgraded creatures (i.e.: Dragon Flies) in all 5 defenders' slots 

-  Notes
(0000730)
Boulie (reporter)
2010-03-02 13:31
edited on: 2010-03-04 21:05

In OH3 there is 50% possibility that one of the stack will be upgraded (except Dragon Fly Hive)

Dwarven Treasury :
50Dwarves for 2500 gold and 2Crystal.HordeofDwarves(5*10)/Lots of Dwarves(4*10)and PackofBattleDwarves(10)
75Dwarves for 4000 gold and 3 Crystal.Horde of Dwarves(5*15)/HordeofDwarves(4*15)andPackofBattle Dwarf(15)
100Dwarvesfor5000goldand5Crystal.Throng of Dwarves(5*20)/HordeofDwarves(4*20)andLotsofBattleDwarves(20)
150Dwarvesfor7500goldand10Crystal.ThrongofDwarves(5*30)/ThrongofDwarves(4*30)andLotsBattleDwarves(30)
Naga Bank :
10 Nagas for 4kgold and 8 gems. Pack of Nagas (5*2=10) / Several Nagas(4*2=8) and few Naga Queens(2)
15 Nagas for 6kgold and 12 gems. Pack of Nagas (5*3=15) / Pack of Nagas(4*3=12) and Few Naga Queens(3)
20 Nagas for 8kgold and 16 gems. Lots of Nagas (5*4=20) / Pack of Nagas(4*4=16) and Few Naga Queens(4)
30 Nagas for 12kgold and 24 gems. Lots of Nagas (5*6=30) / Lots of Nagas (4*6=24) and several Naga Queens(6)
Imp Cache :
100 Imps for 1000 gold and 2 mercury. Throng of Imps(5*20) / Horde of Imps(4*20) and Lots of Familiars(20)
150 Imps for 1500 gold and 3 mercury. Throng of Imps(5*30) / Throng of Imps(4*30) and Lots of Familiars(30)
200 Imps for 2000 gold and 4 mercury. Throng of Imps(5*40) / Throng of Imps(4*40) and Lots of Familiars(40)
300 Imps for 5000 gold and 6 mercury. Swarm of Imps(5*60) / Throng of Imps(4*60) and Horde of Familiars(60)
Medusa Stores :
20 Medusa for 2kgold and 5 sulfur. Lots of Medusas(5*4) / Pack of Medusas(4*4) and a Few Medusa Queen(4)
30 Medusa for 3kgold and 6 sulfur. Lots of Medusas(5*6) / Lots of Medusas(4*6) and Several MedusaQueen(6)
40 Medusa for 4kgold and 8 sulfur. Lots of Medusas(5*8) / Lots of Medusas(4*8) and Several MedusaQueen(8)
50 Medusa for 5kgold and 10 sulfur.Horde of Medusas(5*10)/Lots of Medusas(4*10) and Pack MedusaQueen(10)
Cyclops Stockpile :
20 Cyclops for 4 of each resource. Lots of Cyclopes(5*4) / Pack of Cyclopes(4*4) and Few Cyclops Kings(4)
30 Cyclops for 6 of each resource. Lots of Cyclopes(5*6) / Lost of Cyclopes(4*6) and Several Cyclops Kings(6)
40 Cyclops for 8 of each resource. Lots of Cyclopes(5*8) / Lost of Cyclopes(4*8) and Several Cyclops Kings(8)
50 Cyclops for 10 of each resource.Lots of Cyclopes(5*10)/ Lost of Cyclopes(4*10) and Pack Cyclops Kings(10)

(0000731)
Zamolxis (viewer)
2010-03-02 13:45
edited on: 2010-03-02 13:46

I kinda remembered 1 stack of upgraded creatures, but I wasn't sure. But what I was pretty sure of, was that I never encountered upgraded only. Many thanks for the details above - it should help fix this the right way. ;)

(0000740)
Warmonger (administrator)
2010-03-02 18:14

Fixed in r1531
(0000749)
Zamolxis (viewer)
2010-03-02 22:07

Tow/Warmonger: could one of you confirm whether r1531 has been included in the updated 0.80? I do seem to notice a difference in the amount of defenders (though that can be a coincidence), but the main problem is not yet fixed. I still get (like 40% of the time) upgraded creatures only.
(0000770)
Zamolxis (viewer)
2010-03-04 21:41
edited on: 2010-03-04 22:57

I am reopening this because chronologically it was declared as fixed 3 hours before the final 0.80 package was built, so it may be that a partial fix is in there, however the banks do not behave as expected.

It can also be that r1531 was not included in 0.80, but then at least I'm posting this as a heads up on how the other creature banks (not mentioned in Boulie's note) should behave:

- Dragon Fly Hives should have only Dragon Flies (mentioned briefly by Boulie, but just to clarify)

- Griffin Conservatory:
50 Griffins for 1 Angel : Horde of Griffins (5*10) /or/ Lots of Griffins (4*10) & Pack of Royal Griffins (10)
100 Griffins for 2 Angels : Throng of Griffins (5*20) /or/ Horde of Griffins (4*20) & Lots of Royal Griffins (20)
150 Griffins for 3 Angels : Throng of Griffins (5*30) /or/ Throng of Griffins (4*30) & Lots of Royal Griffins (30)
200 Griffins for 4 Angels : Throng of Griffins (5*40) /or/ Throng of Griffins (4*40) & Lots of Royal Griffins (40)

Please check if these are also implemented as they should.

(0000772)
Warmonger (administrator)
2010-03-05 05:44
edited on: 2010-03-05 05:45

It is fixed, but not included in the package.

And the code is general for all banks, you don't need to list all creatures as they're in config files.

(0001331)
Boulie (reporter)
2010-08-24 13:50

I cannot reopen this issue but it should be.
I'm nearly sure that I've written somewhere about it.
Upgraded stack should appear always on the left bottom corner of the screen.
See attached screen.
(0001789)
Zamolxis (viewer)
2011-05-31 23:34

Closed, as the main issue reported has been fixed since 0.81.

There are a couple of related items reported in the comments above, for which I opened reports 0000747 & 0000748 to keep track of them.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-03-02 11:41 Zamolxis New Issue
2010-03-02 11:42 Zamolxis File Added: 2010-03-02_UpgradedCyclops.jpg
2010-03-02 13:31 Boulie Note Added: 0000730
2010-03-02 13:45 Zamolxis Note Added: 0000731
2010-03-02 13:46 Zamolxis Note Edited: 0000731 View Revisions
2010-03-02 17:26 Warmonger Assigned To Tow => Warmonger
2010-03-02 18:14 Warmonger Note Added: 0000740
2010-03-02 18:14 Warmonger Status assigned => resolved
2010-03-02 18:14 Warmonger Fixed in Version => 0.89
2010-03-02 18:14 Warmonger Resolution open => fixed
2010-03-02 22:07 Zamolxis Note Added: 0000749
2010-03-04 21:05 Zamolxis Note Edited: 0000730 View Revisions
2010-03-04 21:29 Zamolxis Summary Sometimes we find upgraded creatures at Creature Banks => Sometimes we find upgraded creatures (all stacks) at Creature Banks
2010-03-04 21:29 Zamolxis Additional Information Updated View Revisions
2010-03-04 21:41 Zamolxis Note Added: 0000770
2010-03-04 21:41 Zamolxis Status resolved => feedback
2010-03-04 21:41 Zamolxis Resolution fixed => reopened
2010-03-04 21:42 Zamolxis Note Edited: 0000770 View Revisions
2010-03-04 22:53 Zamolxis Summary Sometimes we find upgraded creatures (all stacks) at Creature Banks => Creature Banks - Sometimes all 5 defending stacks are upgraded
2010-03-04 22:56 Zamolxis Note Edited: 0000770 View Revisions
2010-03-04 22:57 Zamolxis Note Edited: 0000770 View Revisions
2010-03-04 23:01 Zamolxis Relationship added related to 0000287
2010-03-04 23:03 Zamolxis Relationship added related to 0000426
2010-03-04 23:11 Zamolxis Additional Information Updated View Revisions
2010-03-05 05:44 Warmonger Note Added: 0000772
2010-03-05 05:45 Warmonger Note Edited: 0000772 View Revisions
2010-03-05 05:45 Warmonger Note Edited: 0000772 View Revisions
2010-03-05 05:45 Warmonger Status feedback => resolved
2010-03-05 05:45 Warmonger Resolution reopened => fixed
2010-08-24 13:50 Boulie Note Added: 0001331
2010-08-24 13:50 Boulie File Added: creatures banks upg stack.jpg
2010-08-24 19:51 Zamolxis Additional Information Updated View Revisions
2011-05-31 23:17 Zamolxis Issue cloned: 0000747
2011-05-31 23:17 Zamolxis Relationship added related to 0000747
2011-05-31 23:30 Zamolxis Issue cloned: 0000748
2011-05-31 23:30 Zamolxis Relationship added related to 0000748
2011-05-31 23:34 Zamolxis Note Added: 0001789
2011-05-31 23:34 Zamolxis Status resolved => closed

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